Sunday, July 18, 2010

Occasionalism = Pantheism?

If occasionalism is true, then God is truly the only will that acts in the universe. But then doesn't that make everything merely an extension of God? And doesn't that sound a bit like pantheism?

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Steven said...

"If occasionalism is true, then God is truly the only will that acts in the universe. But then doesn't that make everything merely an extension of God? And doesn't that sound a bit like pantheism?"

Other beings have wills on occasionalism; it's just that the events of my willing to X are "occasions" of divine activity.

And I don't understand what an "extension" of an immaterial necessary ground of being would be like. You need to provide arguments if you're going to claim these things.

bossmanham said...

I figure I'd provide about as scant an argument as you did.

Steven said...
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drwayman said...

Omnicausality blurs the line between the divine and the creation, hence, pantheism. It also fills the creation with pride which is original sin.

Steven said...
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drwayman said...

If all causation is caused by one being (The Creator), then all action is attributed to that being. Hence, there is no distinction between the Creator and the created.

When there is no distinction, between the divine and human, then we have pantheism. Which leads to humanity with feelings of pride due to being endowed with the divine. Pride is the sin that got Satan kicked out of heaven.

Steven said...
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drwayman said...

"There is still action on the part of non-divine things" - This is a simple assertion.

Either, a) there is omnicausality (occasionalism), or b) there is no God, or c) God freely allows causation by humanity. Which is it?

Steven said...
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drwayman said...

Interesting that you don't understand concurrence. That is "c) God freely allows causation by humanity."

Steven said...
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